On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 15:45 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > While it's true that both Emacs and XEmacs fail on a number of points > for inclusion in Core such as using a modern toolkit¹, I don't think *that* should be a criterion. > we should > remember that one of the primary targets for Fedora Core is "free > software hacker", and many, many of us still use an emacsen. > > ¹ I'm aware of work to have Emacs and XEmacs use GTK+ for menus and > such, but to really be useful they need to use e.g. Pango for buffer > display. The rpms made by Jens Petersen for Emacs 22.0.50 use GTK and seem to work well. Emacs feels a little faster than XEmacs, it would be ok for me to give up XEmacs, if the most important packages (auctex, again) were included. -- Gérard Milmeister Langackerstrasse 49 CH-8057 Zürich