On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 11:04 -0700, Jamie Zawinski wrote: > I'm curious, do you have any way of determining which is actually more > popular these days? I don't think anyone has claimed they have a scientific measure. > Based on previous core/extras discussions I've seen here, I'm surprised > that you're not punting both to Extras. While it's true that both Emacs and XEmacs fail on a number of points for inclusion in Core such as using a modern toolkit¹, we should remember that one of the primary targets for Fedora Core is "free software hacker", and many, many of us still use an emacsen. ¹ I'm aware of work to have Emacs and XEmacs use GTK+ for menus and such, but to really be useful they need to use e.g. Pango for buffer display.