Re: [Fedora-packaging] RPM-level auto release and changelog bumping - Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal

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Le 2020-07-02 15:11, Kamil Dudka a écrit :
On Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:02:05 PM CEST Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote:
If there is buy-in, it will be implemented by goodwill people. If there
is no buy-in, it won’t, normal community development process. Put
yourself in the category you want to be in, your choice, not mine.

I believe that Change submission guidance is pretty clear on this:

"If you have improvement in mind, work to get implementers committed to the effort _before_ filing a Change proposal, rather than expecting
    them to show up for work once the Change is accepted."

This is a F34 Change (not that it could not be done for F33 if people were willing). It was filled at the same time as the F33 change because it’s the logical continuation of the F33 change and people were sure to ask about it in the other change discussion (as they did).

I believe a full cycle is largely enough to get people used to the idea and committed or not. It was split from the F33 change to give this cycle for things to mature.

The F33 change is continuation of work I began in 2017, and has served Fedora well since, and the same objections were raised against the 2017 change, and the same empty promises were made by naysayers that they would do better someday, and 2+ years later no one has seen any part of their alternative implementation in real life (laughably, some of the naysayers complained it was not documented well enough, and blocked the documentation merge later when it was provided). Also the naysayers are not the ones that would do the implementation since no one sane would count on them to do anything anyway.

The work is done, anyone can get the SRPMS in the copr and check by himself that they do autobump and auto changelog, there are minor blockers because the feature changes slightly the point at which the SRPM should be collected in the build process, but they are *minor*, not anything that requires a huge re-architecture of current tooling.

Which is pretty cool because current tooling was not designed around this feature, and yet it works fine, with minor adjustments.

Regards,
--
Nicolas Mailhot
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