On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:17:58PM -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote: > On 7/2/20 3:10 PM, Christopher Engelhard wrote: > >On 02.07.20 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > >>It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only > >>root file system, all the way to the graphical environment. Obviously, > >>such a machine will not be fully functional, but for users, debugging a > >>disk problem when they have the normal environment with windows, > >>tabbed terminals, graphical editors, and internet is vastly easier. > >> > >>It also creates an image of robustness. Imagine that instead of being > >>rudely dropped to a terminal prompt, the user is instead able to log in > >>as usual and see a popup like > >>>Your home directory is read-only. Do this and that. See https://... > > > >That would be fantastic, and would be miles ahead from any UX I had on > >any computer, ever. > > > >>I hope we can all cooperate to make read-only boots nicely robust and > >>functional. Please play with this and report bugs. I'll try to solve any > >>that relate to systemd. The systemd version with udev.blockdev-read-only > >>is not released yet, but is available from koji ci builds [11]. > > > >Thanks for working on this, I will definitely give it a try myself. > > > >Christopher > > This sounds excellent! > > Could we somehow provide a list of links that may be helpful to > recover from certain common failures? Maybe in a MOTD? Ubuntu's MOTD are well known and people seem to like them a lot. Fedora hasn't been making that much use of them. But I think we should in general. If we switch to btrfs by default, we'll certainly need to beef up the docs about diagnosis and recovery. If MOTD poped up a link to them if there are any fs-related issues in the initial boot would be pretty nifty. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
