On Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:09:14 PM MST Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:54 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:24:49 AM MST Gordon Messmer wrote: > > > > > On 7/2/20 3:16 AM, nickysn@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note that, even though Microsoft is pushing for UEFI on new systems > > > > in > > > > the OEM version of Windows, they still support booting in legacy BIOS > > > > mode in the latest Windows 10 version and they even support a 32-bit > > > > version of Windows 10, which Fedora no longer does > > > > ... > > > > I'm by no means a Microsoft fan, but these are facts. Fedora is > > > > pushing > > > > for hardware obsolescence faster than Microsoft in this regard.:( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that as far as 32-bit support is concerned, the issue was less > > > that Fedora pushed for "hardware obsolescence" and more that no one > > > "pushed" for support. Fedora is a collection of the work of > > > volunteers, > > > and supporting 32-bit hardware requires more than simply sending SRPMs > > > through the build pipeline. Things break, and over time there were > > > fewer volunteers willing and able to fix those problems. The way I > > > remember it, there were plenty of statements to the effect that as long > > > as someone was willing to do that work, Fedora would continue to > > > publish > > > a 32-bit release. > > > > > > > > > > > > That doesn't strictly apply to discussions about dropping BIOS boot > > > support, but that doesn't look like it will happen any time soon. > > > > > > > > That's not really true. When it came down to it, it was dropped while 32 > > bit Fedora still worked perfectly. I'm left with 5 systems that will > > never be updated as a result. I asked for a list of issues that warranted > > ending 32 bit support while it still worked, and got nothing. > > > That's certainly not true: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > thread/MVOBCE4G7DKZ56CQXF3B53WXF7LXHYXJ/ That's a link to the release announcement. If you follow the thread, you'll find that I was provided a link to two bugzilla links are to meta links to blockers, where the items that are blocking are not issues preventing x86 systems from actually functioning. Source: My 5 remaining, functional, F30 x86 systems. -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx