On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 2:55:42 PM MST Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 30.6.2020 21:14, nickysn@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > On Tue, 2020-06-30 at 20:32 +0000, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Grub discourages users who have tried sd-boot from coming/returning > >> to > >> Fedora [1]. > >> > >> > >> > >> Bottom line I think this will be a good move for the distribution and > >> a > >> good time to start looking into and make that move. > >> > >> > >> > >> JBG > >> > >> > >> > >> 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/c0f3z5/systemdboot/ > > > > I read the whole reddit link, but I couldn't understand what's wrong > > with grub. The poster admits to having an obsession with keeping the > > number of packages to a minimum (I don't know what that has to do with > > grub), and doesn't like grub for some unexplained reason. Note that I > > have never used sd-boot. So far, I've used LILO (starting with Red Hat > > Linux 5.0), grub1 and grub2. These days, I don't even notice the boot > > loader. This means it's doing its job properly. :) > > > > > > > > Maybe I should try sd-boot in a UEFI VM and see for myself, but can > > someone explain what's the difference? > > > > > > > > I have one system where I run Fedora Server in UEFI mode and I haven't > > ever had the need to mess with the bootloader. It just shows its menu > > for 5 seconds and that's all that it does. I don't understand how can > > something like that discourage a user from using Fedora? :) > > > Given that you have not changed an entry in your boot loader for quite > sometime or perhaps ever it would actually be better that you yourself > setup Fedora using sd-boot as the boot manager and compare changing an > configuration entry in sd-boot with doing the exact same thing in Grub2 > and share your feedback and experience of doing so with the rest of the > community rather then someone provide you with an answer. It's really simple with GRUB. You just alter /etc/default/grub, and then rebuild your config. With systemd-bloat, you do.. what? -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx