On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 05:44:37PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:16:33AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:08 AM Martin Jackson <mhjacks@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > I use flatpaks on Fedora (Discord and okular), and I've really enjoyed > > > the experience with them. I'm not sure how well that would translate to > > > the server environment though, but that general approach seems to do a > > > good job of preserving user experience while isolating potentially > > > troublesome conflicts in a way that doesn't mess up the "base system". > > > > > > > I love how people hold up "containers" as a solution to these problems > > without considering for a moment how exactly the container itself gets > > built. If you were to look into the flatpak build system in Fedora, > > you'd see that they are using Modularity to construct them. > > > > One of the reasons for Modularity is that we agree that containers are > > one "right" way to handle parallel-installability. But we also know > > from past experience (SCLs) that having content in unusual locations > > like /opt means that applications have to be modified. By using > > modules to put the version of software you want into the standard > > location and then using a container to isolate it and/or provide > > parallel-installability, you also get the assurance of knowing the the > > content in your container is just as trusted as your standard RPM > > deployments. > > IIUC from the docs, when using Modularity to build Flatpaks, the > prefix is changed to /app instead of /usr, which makes it much > closers to SCL: > The relocation to /app brings exactly the same issues as SCL <https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/848>, <https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/847>. -- Petr
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