On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:39:05 PM MST Igor Raits wrote: > On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 12:19 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:16:36 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:10 PM John M. Harris Jr < > > > johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 5, 2020 12:03:03 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In discussions with both cloud and server folks, their use > > > > > cases often > > > > > do not even create disk-based swap at all. A small swap-on-zram > > > > > provides all the benefits of inactive anonymous page eviction, > > > > > including reducing reclaim of file pages, without the black > > > > > hole > > > > > performance problems of swap-on-drive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So yes it's well suited for these cases and the proposal does > > > > > include > > > > > them. If they wish to be left out, that's up to those working > > > > > groups. > > > > > It's possible to make sure /etc/systemd/zram-generator is not > > > > > present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That doesn't seem to reflect reality. If you download the Server > > > > image > > > > right now, and go with its automatic partitioning scheme > > > > generation, > > > > it'll give you a swap partition on LVM. This is correct for most > > > > servers, > > > > not necessarily the LVM part, but having swap on disk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The proposal recommends changing this. Cloud and Server folks will > > > decide what's best for their use cases, not me. > > > > > > > > In that case, would you be open to changing this proposal to only > > affect > > Workstation? > > > I think it is fine to have the proposal as it is. Those groups will > chime in if they do not like this approach. Having things consistent > across editions (in this regard) makes more sense to me tbh. What makes sense for desktops doesn't necessarily make sense for servers, or other environments. Fedora isn't just a desktop distro. Additionally, what GNOME folks believe to be best is normally not the best for other desktop environments. -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
