RE: [External] Re: Supporting hibernation in Workstation ed., draft 1

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 8:06 PM
> 
> On Friday, May 29, 2020 3:58:26 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Fedora Workstation working group has been investigating the working
> > state of hibernation (suspend to disk) for about four months, and has
> > produced a draft status report on the findings so far. Present status,
> > impediments to support, and importantly, the specifics of how to
> > address those impediments, are described.
> >
> > This is a draft, to reflect on-going work in this area. It's intended
> > to be short and consumable. Suggestions welcome. I include the
> > synopsis below for better visibility and list search.
> >
> > https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/blob/master/f/hibernationstatus.md
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Synopsis:
> >
> > The Fedora Workstation working group recognizes hibernation can be
> > useful, but due to impediments it's currently not practical to support
> > it. This is a recognition of the current state of affairs, but the
> > working group wishes hibernation could be relied upon, and thinks
> > there is a viable approach for limited support of hibernation in the
> > future. We encourage interested parties to pursue the needed
> > improvements. In the meantime, given that hibernation isn't currently
> > viable, the workstation WG decides that technical decisions will not
> > be constrained by it. Decisions about Workstation's 'out of the box'
> > configuration might conflict with the requirements of hibernation.
> > There are desired enhancements to performance and security that are
> > hindered by the status quo. The working group will re-evaluate when
> > the significant impediments have been adequately addressed.
> >
> > We will support an install time means of enabling hibernation retained
> > via Custom partitioning. If the user chooses to create a swap
> > partition, the installer will include a resume=UUID kernel parameter
> > hint so that the kernel can find the hibernation image.
> 
> I'm sorry, but this makes absolutely no sense. You can test hibernation right
> now, and it will work. When you boot back up, it'll have everything just as
> you left it. What systems is it broken on, those with Secure Boot? Is there
> something in GNOME that has changed in the past few releases which broke
> it?
> 
> I've just taken a Lenovo T500, installed GNOME Workstation and gone into
> hibernation. It took about 30 seconds to boot back in, but I was right where I
> left off. What exactly is broken, and for what portion of users?
> 
I can vouch that hibernate doesn't work on a bunch of platforms (including
the three that are part of the Lenovo+Fedora release). This is with secure 
boot disabled, big enough swap etc. On my X1C7 the device just shuts down 
and then it's as if you power cycled it when you power on again.

I started poking at it a bit (we even have a RH bug somewhere) but in the 
end have gone with "hibernate isn't supported" as the way forward.

Happy to help with the exercise if there are any pointers or data needed, 
guineau pig for testing etc. I didn't make much progress the last time I 
looked at it 😊 I haven't seen much customer demand for it to be 
honest - but I appreciate the reasons why some would like it.

Mark
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