On Apr 7, 2005 9:24 AM, Mike Hearn <mike@xxxxxxx> wrote: > That's fine, but how does the user know this? "yum install gtk1" is a very > UNIXy sort of command for an end user desktop, isn't it? So let's get this straight.. not only do you want gtk1 as part of Core... you want it installed by default as part of the Desktop install? In fc3 gtk+-1.x is part of the "compat-arch-support" group, and I'm pretty sure that stuff is not part of a default Desktop. And I am unaware of any default application that sucks in gtk+-1.x into a desktop install as a requirement, even gnucash and xmms are optional applications. So assuming in fc3 doesn't install gtk+ by default... the change to extras doesn't effectively change the level of difficulty to get the package. In fc3 you still have to do something unixy to get the package installed. Don't even bother with s-c-packages as a counter argument. As soon as you install ANY updates from the network s-c-packages becomes effectively useless as an operational tool because it is unaware of the pool of updates and associated dependancy matrix. -jef