On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 09:11:32PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> said: > > Yep. There's also /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf, where systemd-resolved > > always exposes a list (with the limitations described above). > > I wasn't aware of that file... to me, that's a rather obscure location > (and I didn't find it mentioned anywhere in the change proposal). I > think having it (or at least having it symlinked to by something) in the > more "usual" location, /etc, would be better. Something like > /etc/resolv.conf.upstream? I don't know, I'm really bad at naming > things. :) The file is created dynamically at runtime, so symlinking from /etc has the downside that you'd get a dangling symlink if systemd-resolved is not running. The name would be "new" anyway, and we can document the name under /run just as well as any name under /etc. So I don't think adding a symlink in /etc/ is useful. I added the following to the Change page: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes%2Fsystemd-resolved&type=revision&diff=576142&oldid=576137 > And while I get that the multi-VPN thing is an important use case, I'd > also wager it's a fairly small use case, so not super important to the > people that want to query "real" DNS servers (which I grant is also a > small use case, but I'm just saying it's definitely non-zero and worth > considering). Right. Sadly dig doesn't seem to have an option to specify resolv.conf path, and host also doesn't. I guess it would be a useful addition esp. in case of dig. > Even better would be a standard location (and maybe even defaulting it > to be symlinked to /etc/resolv.conf if systemd-resolved is not in use), > plus trying to get upstreams for common utilities like "dig" to learn > about the alternate (at least with an easy-to-use option). If systemd-resolved is not in use, then most likely you want something else to manage that file, e.g. NetworkManager. In other words, if systemd-resolved is not "on", then we want to fall back to what we do currently, and we don't want systemd-resolved to touch that file at all. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx