On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Igor Raits <ignatenkobrain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > * #2381 F33 System-Wide Change: systemd-resolved (ignatenkobrain, > > 15:10:20) > > * AGREED: APPROVED (+4, ±5, -0) (ignatenkobrain, 15:18:40) > > * AGREED: APPROVED (+5, ±4, -0) (ignatenkobrain, 15:20:51) > > * AGREED: APPROVED (+6, ±3, -0) (ignatenkobrain, 15:21:23) > > So, this is kind of annoying. Last week's meeting had this as "Post > feedback on the devel list and restart discussion"... but that never > happened. > > This change means applications will no longer be able to find the > working DNS servers for any kind of lookups not handled by systemd > (systemd-resolved is intentionally not a true DNS server). The only > interface for that has been /etc/resolv.conf, One of the purposes of this change is to have per-interface DNS servers (so that split-DNS with VPN works). This means that the "single list of DNS servers" doesn't actually describe reality any more. So please note that even if we *do* provide a resolv.conf-style file with some list of name servers, it is of limited use. > but as I understand it, > that will go away (replaced with a stub that refers to 127.0.0.53). Yep. There's also /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf, where systemd-resolved always exposes a list (with the limitations described above). > If actual DNS servers are not going to be listed in /etc/resolv.conf, > then there needs to be a well-defined way for applications to discover > the current DNS servers. resolv.conf has been the way to find DNS > servers for decades; dropping it (and with no clear replacement) is a > bad idea. Is /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf good enough? Would a comment in /etc/resolv.conf pointing the user to that file help? Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx