Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers (anaconda also affected)

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On 29. 04. 20 11:47, Kalev Lember wrote:

GConf2 is orphan, why ? no maintainers or a task force to be removed ?

GConf2 has been deprecated for well over a decade and afaik unmaintained
for nearly half a decade. Thus: please just remove it from your
dependencies and use gsettings instead (the upstream replacement).

Many packages might actually not require it at all: emacs was pulling it
in, but it works just fine without it and with gsettings instead.

Yeah, I am happy to let GConf2 go into the night... thunar-vfs depends
on it, but thats just the old vfs layer Thunar used to use kept around
for compatibility. It should go also.

I agree; it's time to let GConf2 and the rest of the GNOME 2 libraries go. If anyone disagrees and should pick it up, please only keep it for F33 and then retire it in F34, so that we don't keep the old baggage in the distro forever.

I am afraid that just orphaning the old baggage won't ever get us rid of it.

Here is what I think will happen:

 - people panic, some dependencies are removed
 - people wait 5 weeks hoping somebody picks it up
 - somebody unorphans or unretires it, not being aware of this discussion
 - nothing changes

In couple months, the package FTBFS, the maintainer doesn't have time or interest any more, orphans it again.

 - people panic, some dependencies are removed
 - ...

It can take years before eventually, the remaining dependents are not interesting to anybody and the package stays retired.

It is a vicious circle. When we want to remove stuff that is still highly dependent on, somebody must drive it. I've been there, done that.

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