Re: Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Network Time Security

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On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 02:08:46PM -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> Additionally, the 'nts' option for 'server' and 'pool' directives, to me,
> does not make it immediately clear that NTS will be required for _all_ NTP
> servers. To me, that option implies that NTS will be enforced for that
> particular pool or server. Especially since I can have additional directives
> without that option set (which admittedly makes little sense).

Yes, the nts option is specific to the source. Sometimes it makes
sense to mix non-NTS and NTS sources (e.g. in the case with trusted
network), but probably more commonly it does not.

> Finally, the suggestion of bootstrapping NTP without using NTS when TLS
> checks fail concerns me. It needs to be clear when such a thing is allowed
> or not.

The suggestion was to disable the TLS time check, not TLS+NTS
completely.

> I would be much happier with some kind of `requireents` option in
> `/etc/chrony.conf`. When set, NTS is an absolute hard requirement, no plain
> NTP servers will be used (from DHCP or otherwise), NTP bootstrapping
> mentioned above would also be forbidden. When not set, NTS is still verified
> for cases where the option is set, but other NTP servers still work
> (bootstrapping allowed?).

Good idea. An upstream option to control mixing of authenticated and
non-authenticated sources would make sense to me. This would nicely
minimize downstream-specific changes. I think it might have more than
just two settings (enabled, disabled) and we'll need to figure out
where exactly it should be controlled (e.g. configuration,
measurements, or source selection).

Thanks,

-- 
Miroslav Lichvar
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