Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

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On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 03:02:02PM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:13:16PM +0200, Daniel Mach wrote:
[snip]
> > > Setting eol_date to the future allows informing a user about
> > > upcoming obsoleting event so they can eventually migrate manually.
> > 
> > For some context (RHEL...) time-based obsoletes make plenty of sense.
> > But in Fedora we established a policy that obsoletion and other
> > significant stream changes happen at "release boundary", which for
> > each user is whenever they choose to upgrade, so not time-based.
> >
> That's a great motivation, but this is not how it works in the real world.
> 
> A packager asks for a branch and sets an end-of-life date. The date is
> enforced to align with a Fedora cadence. I.e. 4th and 10th month of a year. The
> packager builds a module from that branch for _all_ Fedoras and pushes the
> builds to the stable repositories. Once the end-of-life day comes, the
> packager stops maintaining the stream. That day there is exactly one Fedora
> release that also reached the end of life. But all the newer Fedora releases
> are still supported, but the stream there is not. You have an unsupported
> stream in a supported Fedora release.
> 
> That's the outcome of decoupling a stream life cycle from a Fedora life cycle.
> 

My understanding of current policy is that it would not be permitted to have such a module in current fedora. It could only be included in a version of fedora where it will receive updates for the entire life cycle of that Fedora version.

V/r,
James Cassell
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