On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 10:15 AM Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Dne 06. 04. 20 v 14:34 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 8:26 AM Stasiek Michalski <stasiek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:10 pm, Adam Williamson > >>> <adamwill(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >>> > >>> $100/month per user for Ultimate (the only offering that meets the > >>> "requirements")... 2339 packages in FAS... so $233900 * 12 works out to > >>> roughly $3 million per year just for Fedora, assuming we never let > >>> anybody other than approved Fedora packagers use the instance. Or in > >>> terms of salary: a couple dozen software developers, more or less. > >>> > >>> I wonder if that's really more cost-effective than hiring a couple more > >>> infrastructure devs.... > >> Ignoring the core values and wasting money on outsourcing the problems > >> at the same time? Sounds like capitalism to me ;) > >> > >> Joking aside, openSUSE will not be publicly deploying GitLab due to > >> many of our contributors disagreeing with the open core development > >> model, and we were hoping to use Pagure, since it does have the features > >> our contributors wanted to have in the forge. Also some of my excitement > >> for the forgefed is showing through. However reading through this thread > >> I do get the feeling that there is largely no interest in developing > >> Pagure, despite the fact it is pretty much the only forge with the > >> features that make it easy to replace GitHub with it (and even moreso > >> since Microsoft started getting GitHub to actually focus on similar > >> areas as Pagure has been for years). Disappointing. > > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project isn't suddenly being > > removed from the internet. Is there a reason you can't contribute to > > it to add the features you need? > > > This is like saying that if RH reassigns all Python maintainers > currently working on Python in Fedora to something else, that Python in > Fedora will prosper the same way as it always did. No, actually that isn't what I said. I never said anything about Pagure *prospering*. I said it exists for contributions today and it will continue to exist going forward as long as people want it to. Further replies in the thread elaborate more. > Or maybe reassigning Java maintainers .... oh, sorry, that already > happened ... Sure. To acknowledge your point, losing a large contributor to any project is a blow. That's 100% true. That doesn't mean it kills the project immediately, and those that want to see it continue need to put in the work to make that happen. In some cases, it can actually have net positive effects by making the community that is interested now empowered as well. It really all depends on what those contributors are willing to do though. josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
