Re: Heads-up: RPM 4.16 alpha coming to rawhide

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On 3/31/20 3:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 8:10 AM Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It's that time of year again... as our RPM change proposals passed with
flying colors in yesterdays meeting, I'll hope to land RPM 4.16 alpha in
rawhide later today or tomorrow by latest.


Since Panu left it out of his announcement, I'd also like to mention
that RPM 4.16 adds the following new feature:

"Add support for meta dependencies (eg Requires(meta): somepkg) that
do not affect install/erase ordering (RhBug:1648721)"

These dependencies are intended for use with metapackages and help
with avoiding dependency loops. Essentially, a `Requires(meta):`
dependency is telling RPM: at the end of any transaction where this
package is installed, this dependency must also be installed, but I
don't need the dependency ordered earlier.

This is going to come in handy for the Fedora Release packages (like
fedora-release-server) which will be able to define a minimal "API" to
be recognized as that Edition (or Spin). This didn't work before this
feature was added, because fedora-release must be ordered early in the
transaction to set up things like /etc/os-release, so we couldn't set
dependencies.

Oh, thanks for the reminder about this Stephen.

Besides meta-packages, another potential use-case for meta (whether Requires or weak dependencies) is those just-in-case dependencies across sub-packages to ensure nobody runs weird combinations even though sonames might permit it. Often they are in the same direction as the soname dependency so it doesn't create any additional ordering issues but sometimes they're in the opposite direction, creating a wholly unnecessary dependency loop. Rpm itself is an example of this (but we can't really use "meta" anytime soon as rpm needs to be bootstrappable from older versions)

	- Panu -
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