Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose

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Dne 25. 03. 20 v 11:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
> On 25. 03. 20 10:26, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>> I think that the level of involvement of the other maintainers is the
>> same as what we always did for RHEL. Did RHEL maintainers bothered some
>> Fedora maintainers with some conditionals and what not? Probably. I
>> don't see that should be different. The only difference probably is that
>> that won't be one time effort once in every 3 years, but the flow of
>> requests will be continuous, but hopefully smaller.
>
> Well, not exactly. The RHEL maintainer can try to "bother" the Fedora
> maintainer with rhel conditionals and when that Fedora maintainer says
> no, the RHEL maintainer adjust the spec in RHEL only. In many cases
> that can even be the same person. Assume I want to do something
> differently in RHEL and Fedora -- I just push the change in RHEL.
>
> While there is no way to adjust a spec in ELN only (if I understand
> the plan correctly). Assume I want to do something differently in ELN
> and Fedora -- I need to use the conditionals.
>
>> Actually, this brings interesting question. It seems to me, that it
>> would be helpful if RHEL maintainers had blank approval to access the
>> ELN packages.
>
> What are ELN packages? From the proposal, it seems it is all Fedora
> packages. Or did I get that wrong? Do you propose that RHEL
> maintainers are automatically provenpackagers (I don't think you do,
> but I am not sure)?


I assume that there will be "ELN" branch, the same way we have fxx or
epel branches. Is my assumption wrong? Dunno.


>
>
> In the ideal world, the RHEL maintainer of "foo" should be at least a
> comaintainer of "foo" in Fedora, not somebody with "blank approval to
> access". It is sad that in some cases, the RHEL maintainers are not
> involved in the corresponding Fedora packages until RHEL N+1 is in
> progress where they'd just like to dump changes and leave for another
> few years.
>
> But even if the RHEL maintainer is an active and/or primary maintainer
> of the Fedora package, they don't necessarily want to push %if
> 0%{?rhel} conditionals to rawhide just to support ELN. What shall they
> do?
>

Yes, right, I am in that boat as I sad on different place :) and again,
since this is not explicitly mentioned in the proposal, I assume that is
is something to consider.


Vít
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