On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 9:02 AM Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:35 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 8:29 AM Daniel Mach <dmach@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dne 04. 03. 20 v 23:01 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 4:37 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > > <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Are you going to use sd-bus for the dbus library? > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'd hope not, given that we have cross-distro usage of DNF now, and a > > > > couple of them don't have systemd. > > > > > > > Do you know which distros do not have systemd? > > > > > > We have evaluated sd-bus to be the best dbus client available, but we > > > may have underestimated it's adoption. > > > > > > Couldn't systemd team split it into a separate library independent on > > > the rest of the systemd eco-system? :) > > > > > > > Off the top of my head: PLD and ALT do not mandate systemd usage, and > > their default setup is still sysvinit. > > > > PCLinuxOS also does not have systemd and does not currently intend on > > including it. > > If I were weighing the value of having dnf work on those distributions > vs. building out a more robust and maintainable dnf for *most* > distributions, I would choose the later. My point here is that > cross-distro compatibility is important, but it is not the most > important thing. > Perhaps, but no code has been written yet, so this decision isn't set in stone. This is the perfect time to make sure we don't trap ourselves. And I also forgot all about Yocto, which switched to DNF back in Yocto 2.3. They do not use systemd by default in a lot of cases, and having DNF work there without systemd is valuable because of all the configurations they offer that systemd does not support. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
