Re: State of FMN (FedMSG Notifications) and Replacement

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On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 08:26 +0100, Clement Verna wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> FMN (https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications) is currently one of the
> main blocking point for dropping fedmsg in favour of fedora-messaging.
> FMN is quite important to the community and the composition of Fedora
> because it gives emails and notifications on commits, composes, builds and
> updates via email and other tools.
> 
> However, the code base is written in Python 2.7 and not maintained anymore.
> Currently the service has to run on a Fedora 28 system to continue running.
> This causes multiple problems and concerns, and needs to be addressed
> before the datacenter move in June.
> 
> In order to start putting together a specification for a replacement, we
> should try to look at the minimum requirements for a notification system.
> For example the current system supports sending notifications to IRC,
> emails and SSE (Server Sent Event), Can we live without SSE ? Can we live
> without IRC ? Do we need it to monitor everything it does currently or just
> a subset of items that the community has found useful.
> 
> Let's use this thread to brainstorm ideas on what we need.

I'd note that a key feature of FMN is that it provides human-readable
summaries of messages. For fedmsg this is achieved through the fedmsg
metadata system, and the Fedora providers for it:

https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedmsg_meta_fedora_infrastructure/

for fedora-messaging, the intended way to do approximately the same
thing is with message schemas:

https://fedora-messaging.readthedocs.io/en/latest/messages.html#schema

as part of modernizing FMN and rewriting it on fedora-messaging, we
might well need to get fedora-messaging schema coverage up to a similar
level as we have fedmsg meta coverage. We may want to see if we can
come up with an automated or semi-automated process for converting
fedmsg meta providers to fedora-messaging schemas, even...
-- 
Adam Williamson
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