Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

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On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 8:29 PM Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 11:59 AM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 7:45 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:37 PM Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:53 PM David Cantrell
> > > > <david.l.cantrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Similarly, a package with a medium CVE NEW bugzilla would be orphaned after 4
> > > > > > reminders (after 9-12 weeks), retired at a point if still not CLOSED after 4 months.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With low severity, that is 6 reminders (after 15-18 weeks), retired at a point
> > > > > > if still not CLOSED after 6 months (similarly to the current policy).
> > > > >
> > > > > Where do get bug severity information?
> > > >
> > > > Fedora Workstation WG has an issue "Reconsider updates policy" that
> > > > relates to this question.
> > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/107
> > > >
> > > > If there are any security updates, GNOME Software pops up a
> > > > notification to install them. This thwarts attempts to avoid nagging
> > > > the user, because so many updates contain some sort of security
> > > > mitigation. One proposal is to not treat security updates as special,
> > > > and still wait until a week has passed for the update.
> > > >
> > > > But the contra argument is, well what if there is an urgent security fix?
> > > >
> > > > The repo metadata, I guess, needs some way of distinguishing urgent vs
> > > > non-urgent security updates, so that GNOME Software knows whether to
> > > > notify the user accordingly. But is there a reliable way of
> > > > distinguishing between urgent and non-urgent security updates? I'd
> > > > informally suggest "urgent" is something that should be applied today
> > > > or tomorrow. Anything else can wait a week or two.
> > > >
> >
> > (snip)
> >
> > > The repo metadata has the property, so packagers just have to set it
> > > in Bodhi when submitting updates. It defaults to unspecified.
> >
> > It *does* default to unspecified, yes. However, when submitting an
> > update of type "security", bodhi won't let you even submit the update
> > unless you set the severity to something other than "unspecified".
>

(snip)

> Is there a distribution wide definition for these four severities?
> Ideally, urgent should be a high bar, and I wonder if it's possible
> many updates tagged as urgent are actually high severity?
> https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/blob/develop/bodhi/client/bindings.py#L262

I don't know what the policy is for this, but when I get a CVE
bugzilla filed against one of my packages, and I fix it with an
update, I set the severity of the update to be the same as the
severity of the CVE bug, and I think that's the obvious choice (also,
the names of those severities are identical, so I think that's the
intention).

Fabio

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