Re: RFC: Security policy adjustments to make it easier to implement and more friendly to maintainers

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On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 2:23 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2020 12:19:41 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 11:08 AM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday, February 13, 2020 1:34:32 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > > But the contra argument is, well what if there is an urgent security
> > > > fix?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The repo metadata, I guess, needs some way of distinguishing urgent vs
> > > > non-urgent security updates, so that GNOME Software knows whether to
> > > > notify the user accordingly. But is there a reliable way of
> > > > distinguishing between urgent and non-urgent security updates? I'd
> > > > informally suggest "urgent" is something that should be applied today
> > > > or tomorrow. Anything else can wait a week or two.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's an entirely subjective thing. I'd recommend prompting to install
> > > ALL security updates immediately, but why not just give the user an
> > > option for security updates? This is what Mac and Windows do, and it
> > > makes sense because it's really the user's opinion of security updates
> > > that matter on their system.
> >
> >
> > Windows has a weekly security and virus definitions update, not every
> > day. Windows Home has no user visible opt out. macOS separates minor
> > version updates and security updates, security updates aren't more
> > often than every few weeks. There's a very rare category of critical
> > security updates that Apple can forcibly push onto user's machine
> > without consent.
> >
> > The complaint on Fedora Workstation relates to frequent, sometimes
> > daily, update notifications because a package has a security related
> > update. The question is how to reduce this to once a week.
>
> If that's the question, that's what you should have asked. Really, that's not
> something that should be done. Security updates are called security updates
> for a reason.
>

Yes they are, but it's also about sensible risk management. Most home
users can put off *most* updates (security or otherwise) for a month
without too much worrying. Business users may have a different risk
profile, depending on network topology and other factors.



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