On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 2:41 PM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Currently impossible due to completely broken Java stack in Fedora. > > > > When I read this I'm always puzzled by the negativity. > > > > What is "completely broken" exactly that you need? Things seem to work > > quite well. > > The problem is that the current "work[s] quite well" situation relies > entirely on a small number of volunteers (including me), who don't > even want to maintain Java packages. > If I alone decide to finally give up on Java packages in fedora > (because why not?), you can say goodbye to almost 200 Java packages > (not including dependencies). First of all, thank you for your work! I know it may not mean much but it is appreciated. On a general side, I would say, however, that this is the nature of every collaborative effort, isn't it? Also, I can only speak for JMC (since my team owns this) and for OpenJDK (since I'm part of the OpenJDK team an Jiri own this), and I know the base is sound. And we aren't required to do any of this work, but we do it because we want to have Fedora a great platform for Java development, so we put efforts in ensuring that OpenJDK (and JMC) are packaged correctly. Also, there is always the risk that someone leaves to do better things, but this doesn't mean "completely broken" (otherwise why haven't the packages been retired?), so I think my first question is still valid. Cheers, Mario -- Mario Torre Associate Manager, Software Engineering Red Hat GmbH <https://www.redhat.com> 9704 A60C B4BE A8B8 0F30 9205 5D7E 4952 3F65 7898 _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx