Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

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I think, and this is my personal opinion, that Ubuntu is so popular, because it is easy to use for everyone. You don't need to have much technical knowledge to use Ubuntu for most thinks that non technical user needs and it looks good.

Every time I'm trying to use Fedora the same way, I always end up in terminal for various reasons, either because of bugs in some software or debugging something that simply doesn't work.

I tried a experiment on my desktop computer and tried to play with it like regular user (using GUI for everything and doing things like installing new things, watching movies, playing games etc.). It worked for some time, but I always encounter something that just broke things and if you google it, there is in most cases no way to fix this without using terminal and have some technical knowledge.

The same is for the guides. There are plenty of guides for Ubuntu with screenshots, so it's easy for users to just follow these guides. For Fedora we have plenty of guides that just have only commands you need to run and I know plenty of users that just don't know what command means or where they should write it.

Michal


On 07/01/2020 17:14, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 16:38, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 03:22:45PM +0100, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
For me, the main challenge Fedora faces is **positioning**.

Let me explain: (I don't have numbers but) in my (limited) experience,
when seasoned sysadmins need to launch a new system, they usually
think "Debian" as something reliable; when seasoned as well as
not-very-seasoned-in-Linux research engineers (I know better this
category, since I'm a researcher) need to setup a system for some demo
or experiment, they mostly think "Ubuntu" (yes, I know...); when we
see a new exciting service (such as Travis CI and the like) coming
out, they usually support Ubuntu; and so on and so forth, and I'm not
even talking about the desktop use case.

So I think there's the challenge for Fedora, for all those people to
consider Fedora as a first option for their use cases.
I agree that's a challenge. Any ideas for how to address it and change these
perceptions?
I'm far from having a satisfactory response to that, but I see two
fronts here. First, marketing. How does Ubuntu managed to be so
popular among less-experienced Linux users? I'm not sure, but I
suspect that good marketing has something to do with it. Second,
exposure. If someone wants to configure a Travis CI instance, or a
Google Cloud instance for some data science pipeline, etc., etc., and
Fedora is there among the options available, then Fedora will
automatically come to mind as an option for the next project. Of
course that's not under our direct control, but if we know the
requirements for such third-party services, we can build specially
tailored spins and try to promote them in those
communities/projects/enterprises at all levels. So 1) stay on the
cutting edge, 2) make it as easy as possible to choose Fedora over
other options, and 3) marketing and promotion may be a good recipe.


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