On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:22 AM Kamil Dudka <kdudka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Monday, January 13, 2020 5:59:49 AM CET Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 9:39 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 07:15:39PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might be a bad idea. But I'm looking for better ideas than status > > > > quo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A known problem is upgraded systems get crusty over time. Maybe folks > > > > should clean install more often, yet they don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there's a new good idea, but it's a short term solution, the fact > > > > it'll > > > > live forever acts as a deterrent to implementing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What if there were an autoremove for anything older than Fedora n-2, > > > > that > > > > is, keep current plus last two releases? i.e. for upgrades to Fedora > > > > 33, > > > > keep stale packages from 33, 32, and 31. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or another idea? > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, we already have fedora-obsolete-packages. That should handlle this > > > case no? Folks who want to have obsolete things removed can make sure to > > > have fedora-obsolete-packages installed and it should obsolete those. > > > > > > It's not installed by default. Should it be? > > Nope. It could cause dependencies of 3rd party SW to be unexpectedly removed. I understand the path of least resistance with upgrades. They're better off being upgraded, even if they silently have sale bits no longer upgraded. From a security perspective, I think being silent about that is not great. But what I'm getting at is not an upgrade that gets them a system nearly identical to a clean install, but rather removing things that really should be removed. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx