On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 16:25 +0000, Justin W. Flory wrote: > > > > Note, the testing isn't *hard* to do, really, it's just tedious and > > time consuming. Not just the act of running the test (though that does > > take quite a while, between the burning process and the boot, media > > check and install itself), but the fact that it means we need to ensure > > we have at least a couple of people who still have access to a DVD > > burner and blank media. > > I'm warming up to an idea that focuses on empowering the community to > lead this work in a sustainable way without mandating the QA team to > test these every release. If I could suggest first steps to one way > to "hand-off" to the community, it might be like this: > > 1. Publish "Fedora QA test cases" somewhere in the Fedora Docs site > for QA: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/qa-docs/ > 2. Write test cases based on the manual work done currently and how > to validate success; publish in docs site > 3. Write Community Blog post to point out to community that these > docs exist > > If you (or anyone) doesn't like my idea, I encourage you to propose > what you think would work. :) I believe there is a winning solution > where the QA team is relieved of tedious work among increasing > demands, and the distributed Fedora user community does not enter a > frenzy when they find out optical drives are "unsupported". Um. I realize these are the avenues you're familiar with, but we already have a perfectly good, community-facing validation process. We already have test cases. They're written and they work. They're in the wiki not on the docs site; this is not a problem, they are both web pages that community members can visit. (The wiki also has extensive dynamic templating capabilities which the test cases use frequently; the docs site...doesn't). Basically: what's wrong with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Boot_default_install (the test case it links to, for this area) that you think we can fix by moving the test cases to the docs site and somehow rewriting them (? - I really don't know what step 2 means). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
