Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

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On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 01:04:43PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > You've been saying this a lot lately, and this isn't actually backed
> > up by reality.
> > 
> > Debian *is* dropping Python 2 support.
> 
> It was Adam Williamson who claimed that Debian would still support Python 2. 
> I neglected to verify that claim, sorry for that.
> 
> But this means that his argument that users who need Python 2 should just 
> switch to Debian is null and void.
> 
> So far, Fedora has always been one of the few distributions willing to ship 
> legacy compatibility libraries to keep software working. See GTK+ 1, Qt 3, 
> etc. (Some of it, such as Qt 3, was partly my own work, some of it, such as 
> GTK+ 1, has been entirely done by other volunteers.) With the Python 2 
> policy, and also with the package deprecation process that was introduced 
> recently, Fedora is making a radical U-turn, which will make it much less 
> useful for end users. And there is no real alternative to switch to. Debian 
> is clearly not one.
> 
> Maintainers need to realize that there is lots of niche software out there 
> that is effectively unmaintained (and thus will never get ported to Python 3 
> etc.), but that works, fulfills some task, and has no more recent 
> alternative available. What should people relying on such software do?

Either figure out a way to get people to maintain the software, or
figure out a way to get people to develop a replacement, or keep using
the unmaintained software on equally unmaintained older versions of
operating systems that it will run on.

Sorry for the bluntness, but, well...

G'luck,
Peter

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