Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

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On Sat, 2019-12-14 at 10:28 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:26:12 AM MST Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Note, the testing isn't *hard* to do, really, it's just tedious and
> > time consuming. Not just the act of running the test (though that does
> > take quite a while, between the burning process and the boot, media
> > check and install itself), but the fact that it means we need to ensure
> > we have at least a couple of people who still have access to a DVD
> > burner and blank media.
> 
> What is the process for this now? i.e. is this only tested once virtual cd 
> image tests have been completed?

Yes, but I don't see the *relevance* of that. You keep mentioning it,
but I don't see what it has to do with the Change at all. The physical
testing takes the same time either way.

It would be nearly impossible to do the physical testing before virtual
tests have run, because the virtual tests are automated, openQA runs
them as soon as the compose completes. If virtual optical media boot is
broken we find out approximately 10 minutes after the compose completes
(5 minutes for the tests to be scheduled and the Everything network
install ISO to be downloaded, 5 minutes for the test to time out).

> As for having a DVD burner, that's been a standard option on workstations 
> since ~2005.

Well...not really. It *was* a standard option in 2005. It is
increasingly becoming less standard as time goes on.
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Adam Williamson
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