On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:13 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Le 2019-12-02 08:38, Igor Gnatenko a écrit : > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:28 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel > > >> Having all build elements in the package repos themselves is the CORE > >> feature that makes the “share” community dimension of Fedora work. > >> Anyone > >> can take the packages and do whatever he wants with them (audit, > >> rebuild, > >> modify), in any rpm build infra (koji, copr, mock, rpmbuild, obs) > >> without > >> depending on the Fedora build infra of the year. > > > > It would be nice, however please return back to the reality. Many of > > packages are FTBFS (e.g. some BRs do not exist anymore (due to the > > dependency update)). So this does not work in practice. > > That’s just a combination of bad tooling, and therefore bad enforcement, > and people promising castles in the cSure, buloud that would not require any > human effort. > > The only reason people work on the project is that by and large, the > FTBS part is marginal. Make it a normal state, and it will grow, and the > distribution will die. Thanks to Miro, this part is now enforced, though some individuals still do not understand importance of this :/ I am not saying this should not improve. I am just saying that this is where we are and we have had this problem before. And we never had this goal (to make distribution self-contained), as a project. > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx