[modularity] Meeting Minutes Nov. 12, 2019

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#fedora-meeting-3: Weekly'ish Meeting of the Modularity Team
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Meeting started by langdon at 15:01:21 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-11-12/modularity.2019-11-12-15.01.log.html
.

Meeting summary
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* roll call  (langdon, 15:01:37)

* agenda  (langdon, 15:03:06)
  * Agenda Item: FESCo's Ursa Prime Decision  (sgallagh, 15:03:41)
  * Agenda Item: upgrade path issue recap  (langdon, 15:05:17)
  * Agenda Item: open floor  (langdon, 15:05:30)
  * Agenda Item: FESCo's Ursa Prime Decision  (sgallagh, 15:06:34)

* FESCo's Ursa Prime Decision  (langdon, 15:07:21)
  * LINK:
    https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-11-11/fesco.2019-11-11-15.00.log.html
    (asamalik, 15:09:32)
  * LINK:
    https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-11-11/fesco.2019-11-11-15.00.log.html
    (asamalik, 15:10:11)
  * ACTION: langdon to investigate better status reporting mechanism
    perhaps leveraging taiga  (langdon, 15:33:22)

* Upgrade Path Issue Recap  (sgallagh, 15:37:56)
  * Upgrade Issue 1: Installing software that comes from a module's
    default stream enables that module. At upgrade, the stream remains
    the same, even if the new OS release has changed the default. This
    behavior means that users do not get the experience they had with
    non-modular upgrades which is to follow the OS's opinionated
    defaults.  (sgallagh, 15:42:16)
  * Upgrade Issue 2: When attempting to upgrade to a release where an
    enabled module stream has been retired and removed, the upgrade
    process fails with conflicts. This differs from the non-modular
    behavior of simply keeping the old content until and unless it
    starts to cause conflicts or else is Obsoleted.  (sgallagh,
    15:43:47)
  * tracking the bugs for these is not as simple as it may sound.. as a
    result, look to upcoming status report that was discussed earlier
    (langdon, 15:47:04)

* open floor  (langdon, 15:48:07)

Meeting ended at 15:52:44 UTC.

Action Items
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* langdon to investigate better status reporting mechanism perhaps
  leveraging taiga

Action Items, by person
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* langdon
  * langdon to investigate better status reporting mechanism perhaps
    leveraging taiga
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)


People Present (lines said)
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* langdon (67)
* sgallagh (42)
* asamalik (28)
* zodbot (11)
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