On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 13:37 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG? > > IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form > the > current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from > scratch that > actually cares about packaging Java properly in and for (non- > modular) > Fedora. +1 is very strange that java want modularity since we can have various versions of java installed at same time I hope, never use modules for a very long time. > The current modules are missing a lot of Java software that users > care about > (e.g. NetBeans, etc. – some, such as NetBeans, had already been > retired > before Modularity became a thing, because the Java SIG had already > been > disintegrating back then, some was lost in the move to modules), have > put > Eclipse into a broken state, have simply replaced the adapted > JPackage > version of Maven (with RPM integration) with a vanilla upstream Maven > that > does not have this feature (I cannot see what advantage that change > brings), > etc. > > And I do not see at all what advantage end users would get from > those > packages being in modules. Both Maven and Ant are tools where you > normally > always want the latest version, there is not much value in being able > to > pick a specific version stream. > > Kevin Kofler > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
