Re: [fedora-java] What's the State of the Java SIG?

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On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 13:37 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > Or is it time for a "tabula rasa" and restart the SIG?
> 
> IMHO, yes. Kick out the 1 or 2 Modularity fundamentalists that form
> the 
> current remains of the Java SIG and create a new Java SIG from
> scratch that 
> actually cares about packaging Java properly in and for (non-
> modular) 
> Fedora.

+1 is very strange that java want modularity since we can have various
versions of java installed at same time 

I hope, never use modules for a very long time. 

> The current modules are missing a lot of Java software that users
> care about 
> (e.g. NetBeans, etc. – some, such as NetBeans, had already been
> retired 
> before Modularity became a thing, because the Java SIG had already
> been 
> disintegrating back then, some was lost in the move to modules), have
> put 
> Eclipse into a broken state, have simply replaced the adapted
> JPackage 
> version of Maven (with RPM integration) with a vanilla upstream Maven
> that 
> does not have this feature (I cannot see what advantage that change
> brings), 
> etc.
> 
> And I do not see at all what advantage end users would get from
> those 
> packages being in modules. Both Maven and Ant are tools where you
> normally 
> always want the latest version, there is not much value in being able
> to 
> pick a specific version stream.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
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