On Friday, November 15, 2019 7:53:08 AM MST Petr Pisar wrote: > Modularity can achieve it when both Perls are packaged as a module. I'm > only showing why we need default stream if we want modules. If that's the case, why not build a (separate) Modularity distro? If Modularity cannot work with non-modular packages, and that is not a bug with Modularity, it is fundamentally incompatible with Fedora as a traditional distribution. > >> If each of the Perls is a stream of a module, you will put Bugzilla into > >> a module and let it depend on any of the Perls. User can install any of > >> the Perls and Bugzilla. > > > > > > > > I'm guessing that Perl from a module doesn't meet a Require on perl? > > > It meets the RPM-level "Require on perl". But that's not sufficient > because every Perl version is not binary compatible. You need to track > against what Perl Bugzilla was built. That means you need to build Bugzilla > twice and keep these two Bugzilla builds distinct so that DNF can install > the right build depending on Perl user has already installed. Modularity > supports it, but you need both Perl as a module. That would depend on how the Perl packages are actually handled, which I honestly haven't checked, and so I will make no claims as to compatibility. > >> With your proposal Bugzilla packager would have to package Bugzilla > >> twice: as a normal package for default Perl 5.26 and as a module for > >> Perl > >> 5.30. Then a user would have hard time to select the right combinations > >> of > >> Perl and Bugzilla. It would double fork work pacakgers and and make > >> the system more dificult for users. > > > > > > > > I don't believe that's the case. The packager would choose how they want > > to handle it, most likely just not bothering with modules. The user > > would just `dnf install bugzilla`, and use the version that is packaged > > as a non-modular package. > > > > > > If packager does not build Bugzilla for the modular Perl, then of course > the user has no choice. But talk about a case when the user and the > package wants to have a choice. It seems, based on what you've said, that Modules remove this choice. If somebody chooses for something in the dependency tree to be a module, it all has to be a module, otherwise it doesn't work. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx