On Friday, November 8, 2019 3:20:33 PM MST Daniel Walsh wrote: > On 11/8/19 5:16 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 12:09:55 PM MST Martin Kolman wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 2019-11-05 at 19:41 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>> Python 3 traditionally in Fedora was built with a shared library > >>>> libpython3.?.so and the final binary was dynamically linked against > >>>> that shared library. This change is about creating the static library > >>>> and linking the final python3 binary against it, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I oppose this change, because this is yet another size increase: > >> > >> Up to ~27% speed increase for extra ~3.4 MB storage used seems like a > >> good > >> trade-off to me... > >> > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>>> As a negative side effect, when both libpython3.8.so and > >>>> /usr/bin/python3.8 are installed, the filesystem footprint will be > >>>> slightly increased (libpython3.8.so on Python 3.8.0, x86_64 is ~3.4M). > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> and while: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> OTOH only a very small amount of packages will depend on > >>>> libpython3.8.so. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> in practice, that does not help because some of those packages are > >>> installed by default, e.g., the ones you mentioned being installed by > >>> default even on the Docker image: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> *'''libcomps''' > >>>> *'''libdnf''' > >>>> *'''vim''' > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> but there are more, such as gdb, libreoffice, krita, boost, etc. that > >>> are > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> installed on various live images, and calamares, which is popular on > >>> remixes. So all those images will be bloated as a result of your code > >>> duplicating change. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In addition: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> By applying this change, libpython's namespace will be separated from > >>>> Python's, so '''C extension which are still linked to libpython''' > >>>> might experience side effects or break. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> so compatibility is an issue too. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Kevin Kofler > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: > >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > > List > > > >>> Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List > >>> Archives: > >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject. > >>> o > >>> rg > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Fedora Code of Conduct: > >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List > >> Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List > >> Archives: > >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.o > >> rg > > > Anyone that has ever worked with CD images understands that every megabyte > > counts. > > > > > > I would almost always take speed over disk size. > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List > Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List > Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx If you would like such a thing, perhaps a non-default python3-static package is the way to go then. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
