On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 07:50 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > AFAIK , the logic is request an freeze exception , or next push will be > > just after F31 GA . > > I'd like have one unfreeze and push all packages that are waiting to be > > pushed to stable, when we have an NO-GO. > > I already made this request in past and, in resume, the idea was > > rejected with some valid arguments, which I accepted ... > > I have also made this request more than once and would still be in favor of > it, but the QA team is worried that this would introduce more bugs and > either delay the release further or make us ship with more bugs. It is a > tough call. I think such long freezes are a pain for packagers and also > delay (and keep out of the GA images) bug fixes and even security fixes > (also because the stable release updates are affected too if you do not want > to break the upgrade path), but I also understand where QA is coming from. I mean, in the end it would be self-defeating, because the high chance that it would introduce more problems would just mean we'd need to freeze again for longer. As things stand I'm reasonably confident we'll be able to Go next week, so it shouldn't be too much longer. As long as we don't let Kamil test it too hard and find too many blockers, of course. We do tweak the release schedule every so often, right now the freeze periods are fairly long compared to the historical average. I do think that's given us a benefit in terms of how little slippage we've had for the last few releases, though; we could always consider freezing a bit later, but it might result in us slipping more... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx