Re: Fedora 32 Self-Contained Change proposal: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation

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Hi,

On 01-10-2019 18:04, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 10:21 AM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ThermalManagementWS

== Summary ==
Better thermal management and peak performance on Intel CPUs by
including thermald in the default install.

Install the packages and use e.g. turbostat to monitor the
performance. Improvements may only be visible if the non-free
dptfxtract package is also installed.


So, looking at the license of that tool, it seems to be fine to
redistribute it unmodified... so what if we wrote a tool that would
run the `acpidump` and `acpixtract` locally, submit it to a very
simple web service and get back the config file for their system? We
could make this an ExecStartPre for the thermald.service. Upside: we
aren't shipping closed-source binaries but getting the advantage from
them. Downside: this would mean thermald wouldn't be started until
after the network was reachable. I suspect we could establish some
fallback cases though.

That said, given the rest of the comments on this ticket, I'm not sure
we want to approve thermald for default operation on Fedora 32. It
sounds as though it causes serious performance issues on many systems.

So what Christian and Benjamin (the feature owners) have failed to
mention in this thread AFAICT is that part of the plan is to ship a
database with thermald with pre-extracted info for various models
(where we know that thermald is beneficial).

With the pre-extracted info being matched to the laptop based on
DMI strings (the extracted info already contains DMI match info).
Note this is currently still being decided upon, but my latest
knowledge on this is that this is the plan.

Given the reports of thermald sometimes being anything but helpful
and thermald not being very useful without the info, I guess we may
want to make it so that thermald only runs if pre-extracted info
is present for the device model we are running on.

Regards,

Hans
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