On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 10:18, Joe Doss <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 9/26/19 11:57 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > > I would like to hear if you see Pagure as still strategic, and if so, > > how we can make these common user operations faster. > > I always wondered why Fedora home rolled their own Github/Gitlab clone. Because when development started, neither was a market winner. When development ideas started, Launchpad was where everything was moving to and people kept saying that Fedora was falling behind because it didn't have its own Launchpad and the hosted solution we were using with Trac was so lame. Then when GitHub started to take over, it is closed source and that was a big nono for services from Fedora developers. [AKA we move to Github various package owners were going to drop their packages and leave.] Gitlab was also looked at but then there was a push to run it ourselves and it is a ruby frame and we are a python shop. Once you start to stand it up you find you need a lot more hardware/software configs to make it scale for the amount we are pulling/pushing into git. That then leads to needing more equipment which leads to... Then there are problems with budgets and figuring out what exactly it would cost. We fall outside of many of the 'caveats' that would allow us to get free. We pull/push too much data (as people with coprs regularly find out when throttled down to 0), we eat a lot of data, we are not a non-profit etc. That means moving to anything costs money, but figuring out what it costs vs random bill of the month is not trivial. Which then means it takes a long time So you could sit around and just let pagure wither while waiting for Godot, or you could continue to improve it and make it something people may want to use for other things. > Using either Github or Gitlab would be better for new users to get > started with helping to contribute back to Fedora without having to jump > through hoops to figure out how to work around the pitfalls of Pagure. > > Joe > > > > -- > Joe Doss > joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Stephen J Smoogen. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
