On Friday, September 27, 2019 8:01:42 AM MST Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:53:32AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:30 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Jun Aruga wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of, or have, any critical/important use cases that > > > > > would > > > > > > > > be disrupted by QEMU dropping 32-bit *host* support ? If so, let me > > > > know > > > > here & I can forward feedback on. Or feel free to go direct to QEMU > > > > thread > > > > upstream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not a real user of ARM 32-bit. I just checked information for > > > > ARM > > > > 32-bit (armv7) use cases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ## Raspberry Pi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi > > > > > The earlier V1.1 model of the Raspberry Pi 2 used a Broadcom BCM2836 > > > > > SoC with a 900 MHz 32-bit, quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 processor, with > > > > > 256 KB shared L2 cache. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems that the version 1.1 is the last model for 32-bit, and the > > > > announcement was 5 August 2015. > > > > I assume a considerable number of people using ARM 32-bit Raspberry > > > > Pi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Right, but I'm rather sceptical that people are running QEMU on the > > > 32-bit RPi boards. I might be less surprised about the Linux userspace > > > emulation being used, vs full VM, since the former is lower overhead. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to burst your bubble, but since the Raspberry Pi performs quite > > badly as a 64-bit device for the moment, I've used it with Fedora > > armv7hl instead of aarch64. I personally use the user emulation > > mostly, but I know of a couple of cases where system emulation is used > > (mainly for buildsys stuff). > > > Interesting, is there a particular reason why you run the emulation on > a Pi, as opposed to using more powerful x86 hardware for it ? I'm not > saying you're wrong todo this, just trying to understand the motivation > people have. > > Regards, > Daniel > -- > > |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange > |: :| https://libvirt.org -o- > |: https://fstop138.berrange.com :| https://entangle-photo.org -o- > |: https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List > Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List > Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Perhaps the same reason that many people still run i686 based hardware, and will be unable to use Fedora after the release of F31: Why fix what isn't broken? - - John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx