On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:51 AM John M. Harris Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:28:31 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 9/10/19 11:01 PM, John M. Harris Jr. wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:54:50 AM MST Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > >> Sure there are... from the change page: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> "The i686 kernel is of limited use as most x86 hardware supports 64bit > > >> these days. It has been in a status of "community supported" for several > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > >> The lack of fixes for i686 kernels is slowing down all the other arches > > >> that are supported (and thus all of fedora). > > > > > > > > > The first sentence of that paragraph is simply incorrect, new hardware > > > doesn't change what old hardware supports, nor does the availability of > > > new hardware replace old hardware in itself. > > > > > > It's not incorrect. Almost all x86 hardware is 64-bit capable, > > therefore building a 32-bit is of very limited use. It is not easy to > > find 32-bit only CPUs now. Yes, I know some still exist; I have one > > embedded in my wall (NSC Geode). But the last paragraph is important. > > Keeping the i686 kernel in Fedora is hurting everyone for the benefit of > > an extremely small group of users. > > Again, it's completely false that "almost all x86 hardware is 64-bit capable". > That may be true of newer hardware, but that does nothing to change existing > hardware. The laptop I'm typing this email on right now is 32 bit only, by the > way. It was manufactured in 2011. > > I also fail to see how keeping the i686 kernel "is slowing down all other > arches that are supported", and I'd love to know why that's the case, so I can > get to fixing it. > People offered to "get to fixing it" 2 years ago when this was first proposed. They organized, started a SIG, and then crickets. Turns out the fixing it takes continuous effort. This isn't a one time thing, it is issues that pop up regularly. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
