On Saturday, September 7, 2019 11:44:59 AM MST Victor V. Shkamerda wrote: > I totally agree with that view. Making such decisions without public > discussion is not respecting user's freedom of choice. And this list > doesn't count as a public discussion. Nobody will know about it outside a > very closed circle. If you don't know exact numbers or reasons why people > still use that architecture, then rushing to drastic measures just won't > have enough rationale and will be viewed as a lack of care. > The reasons to use 32-bit userland might be more than you think. There are > different use scenarios besides browsing Internet or virtualization. There > could be a high cost of upgrade (think about replacing many computers at > once). There could be a unique peripheral equipment. There could be > compatibility concerns. And there could be just not enough memory. > OTOH, what could justify removing repository entirely? Why not make it an > option which could be installed on demand? That would be better than leave > everyone out on the cold. Is the cost to build it really that high? Safety > could not be a reason in a tightly contained environment. Let users decide > for themselves. > There is no black and white distinction: multilib or i686 kernel. There are > reasons why using x86_64 kernel with i686 userland might be a better > option. Some older office computers were manufactured with 64-bit CPU but > without support for more than 4 GB RAM. In such case using i686 userland on > a x86_64 kernel provides much more free memory than using 64-bit userland. > Such configuration is unsupported, but neither is i686. Giving users a > choice is always better than decide for them behind their backs. > And of course there is still an option to switch to another OS. Do I need to > remind that Linux and Red Hat were not created just to replace some other > OS, but to respect freedom of choice? What happened that this is not even > mentioned in such discussions? Is this just business as usual? Wait, what happened to x86 becoming a secondary architecture? You know, there are vendors that still create and sell x86 systems today. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
