Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 31 Beta Freeze

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Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> If I say:
> 
> 2019-08-20 at 00:00UTC I think I can guess this to be the very start of
> that day, perhaps?
> 
> 2019-08-29 at 24:00UTC is... what? the last miliseconds of that day and
> thus really right next to 2019-08-30 00:00UTC?

2019-08-29 24:00UTC = 2019-08-30 00:00UTC

The idea of the 24:00 (or 23:59 if you prefer) deadlines is that if the 
deadline is given as 2019-08-29, you actually have until 2019-08-29 included 
to publish your change, whereas using the 00:00 formulation means that the 
exact same deadline would be listed as 2019-08-30, but 2019-08-30 is already 
too late for your changes.

E.g., KDE Applications uses 23:59 UTC deadlines:
https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/19.08_Release_Schedule

> If I say: 2019-09-29 at 18:00UTC we all know what time I mean I think,
> or at least it's more clear than 00:00 and 24:00.

A deadline within the day is the other alternative (used, e.g., by KDE 
Plasma: https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 – I presume "midday 
UTC" means 12:00 noon UTC), but IMHO it is more confusing than a 23:59/24:00 
deadline, and for Fedora, it would actually mean a procedure change contrary 
to my proposal.

For academic paper submissions, I have also seen both kinds of deadlines 
(23:59/24:00 deadlines and mid-day (12:00 noon or some other arbitrary time) 
deadlines), but never the confusing 00:00 deadlines used by Fedora.

        Kevin Kofler
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