(Manually forwarding to devel-announce as we work out some tooling issues) ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 4:23 PM Subject: Fedora 32 Self-Contained Change proposal: Switch mingw32 toolchain to dwarf-2 exceptions To: <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> == Issue Link == https://teams.fedoraproject.org/project/changes-tracker/issue2 == Summary == Switch the mingw32 toolchain to dwarf-2 exceptions, instead of SJLJ. == owner == smani == Detailed Description == # Detailed Description The two exception modes supported by mingw32 targets are SJLJ (currently used in Fedora, and still default upstream), and the more recent dwarf-2. According to various sources [1][2][3], the key differences between the two are: SJLJ (setjmp/longjmp): * not "zero-cost": even if an exception isn't thrown, it incurs a minor performance penalty (~15% in exception heavy code) * allows exceptions to traverse through e.g. windows callbacks DWARF (DW2, dwarf-2): * no permanent runtime overhead * needs whole call stack to be dwarf-enabled, which means exceptions cannot be thrown over e.g. Windows system DLLs (i.e. throwing an exception in a system DLL callback and attempting to catch it won't work) * DW2 potentially generates bigger libraries. The overhead however is not big (< 10%) for typical applications. The main reason for switching to dwarf-2 is that rust can only be compiled to a MinGW toolchain targeting dwarf exceptions on 32-bit [4], and rust usage is starting to appear in some packages (i.e. librsvg2). Switching to dwarf-2 on mingw32 would hence allow to keep the same consistent package offering between mingw32 and mingw64, whereas otherwise one would need to either freeze the mingw32 variants at older versions, or remove them altogether. * [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=540782 * [2] https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/mailman/message/30532139/ * [3] https://wiki.qt.io/MinGW-64-bit#Exception_handling:_SJLJ.2C_DWARF.2C_and_SEH * [4] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/12859#issuecomment-185081071 # Benefit to Fedora Continue being able to ship the same package set on mingw32 as well as mingw64. # Scope ## Proposal owners: GCC for mingw32 will be built with `--disable-sjlj-exceptions --with-dwarf2` and all `mingw-*` packages rebuilt. ## Other developers: None ## Release engineering Rebuild in a side-tag # Upgrade/compatibility impact No impact # Contingency Plan * Contingency mechanism: Revert to SJLJ * Contingency deadline: Before release * Blocks release? Yes * Blocks product? No # Documentation None # Release Notes The mingw32 toolchain in Fedora 32 uses the dwarf-2 exception model instead of SJLJ. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis _______________________________________________ devel-announce mailing list -- devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-announce-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
