Thanks for the offer, but no thanks. My point is I don't like using email for forum discussions. The only reason I'm using it here is that I'm being forced to because "Development Discussions", "KDE Discussions" and "Packaging Discussions" aren't available on the Discourse Fedora instance. As I mentioned before, I don't like the idea of forum discussions clogging up my email. I like accessing Fedora Discussions on my phone using the Discourse client. It's much easier to read threads for me and understand prior elements of the discussion on Discourse. Using mail, I have to access the archives to read the full thread.
Seems to me to be a bit weird that Fedora has some discussions on Discourse but refuses to allow other discussions and mandate those be done via a mailing list - especially when Discourse allows a mailing list option.
I understand there isn't going to be 100% feature parity, but it should be good enough - and if it isn't we should be working with the Discourse people to improve it rather than just using it as an excuse to not moving forward.
On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 10:32 AM John Harris <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 5:23:48 AM MST Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> I read all the comments and my response is this...
> First of all, there is no limit to the amount of emails that discourse will
> send out. That is a site parameter, and whomever supports it for Fedora
> needs to change it:
>
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/daily-limits-for-outgoing-mails-per-user/41458
>
> If the requirement is that discourse completely replicate 100% the
> functionality of mailing lists, that is unreasonable and isn't going to
> happen. As I mentioned earlier there are several groups working on this or
> have done migration from mailing lists to discourse:
>
> https://discourse-mediawiki.wmflabs.org/t/lets-try-to-emulate-a-mailing-list
> /1003
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-vs-mailing-lists-majordomo-or-otherw
> ise/65769
>
> You can find more examples with a web search.
>
> A key comment was: "Our site is still quite busy, although some people are
> still grumbling about the change, 8 months later. The die-hard email users
> are still able to participate, which came as a bit of a pleasant shock to
> them. I think they were fully expecting that once we moved to a modern
> platform, they’d be forced to use a web interface."
>
> Personally, I don't like my mailbox filled up with mailing list postings.
> I prefer to uses the discourse rss interface to scan for topics and then go
> directly to it to respond. Instead of writing a "me too" email, I can
> simply click a like button to show I'm in agreement. It's easier to see
> the full context of a thread. With the current situation I have to go scan
> the archives. I like to use the mobile app to read and reply from my
> phone. For every item mentioned about discourse doesn't do A, B, C with
> mailing lists I can counter with an item that email lists cannot do. The
> fact is that for the vast majority of people, the discourse mailing list
> functionality is good enough - and as time goes on it continues to improve
> - but again, it's not reasonable to expect or demand 100%. IMO the pros
> outweigh the cons.
>
> The top of this email thread is: No longer supporting mailing lists
> and my understanding is that Fedora is searching for people to take over
> support. Seems to me that is a good time to consider switching to
> discourse. From reading experiences of people who did the migration, it's
> easier to support.
If you would like, I could assist you in setting up your email client, and in
filtering your mailing lists into folders. You can also access your email on
your phone, if you wish to do so.
Other than things like emoji responses, I can tell you how to do just about
anything that you can on Discourse using Email.
It's not that one is modern and the other is not.
--
John M. Harris, Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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https://splentity.com/
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