On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 05:23:48 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > <snip> > > A key comment was: "Our site is still quite busy, although some people are > still grumbling about the change, 8 months later. The die-hard email users are > still able to participate, which came as a bit of a pleasant shock to them. I > think they were fully expecting that once we moved to a modern platform, they’d > be forced to use a web interface." This statement does nothing to advance either view. "8 months later, Discourse users will still be pleasantly surprised to be able to use e-mail..." > <snip> > I prefer to uses the discourse rss interface to scan for topics and > then go directly to it to respond. Instead of writing a "me too" > email, I can simply click a like button to show I'm in agreement. I'm curious. What are your experiences with like button? From what I see on AskFedora, they don't serve much purpose other than for badges. They only show the number of likes, to begin with. When one clicks to see who liked the post, one only sees their display pictures and must go over the icons one by one to see their usernames (which in our circles does not necessarily connect to their names clearly). So, sure, you are liking the post, but in my book, the communication isn't as clear as a "+1, me too" reply. I'm not sure if like buttons are intended to signal agreement in the first place either. They're more for "I like your reply!", following the Facebook way of things. Of course, to disagree one must comment---intentionally no dislike button anywhere. Flagging means something else entirely. So, for me, the like buttons are merely a gamification feature, not a communication feature. (The same goes for their use in Github/Gitlab/Pagure/hyperkitty) > It's easier to see the full context of a thread. With the current > situation I have to go scan the archives. Not an advantage of Discourse over mailing lists/email either. Any e-mail client will allow one to see a full thread. > I like to use the mobile app to read and reply from my phone. Same---e-mail on my phone/tablet works great. > For every item mentioned about discourse doesn't do A, B, C with > mailing lists I can counter with an item that email lists cannot do. I'm sorry, I've missed these. I'll look through the thread to see what these were. > The fact is that for the vast > majority of people, the discourse mailing list functionality is good > enough > - and as time goes on it continues to improve - but again, it's > not reasonable to expect or demand 100%. IMO the pros outweigh the > cons. > The top of this email thread is: No longer supporting mailing lists > and my understanding is that Fedora is searching for people to take over > support. Seems to me that is a good time to consider switching to discourse. > From reading experiences of people who did the migration, it's easier to > support. For the instances that we have up, all we do is pay Discourse to host for us. If the same is done for mailing lists, they become as easy to support. I've been trying to keep up with the discussion, and the only main selling point of discourse seems to be the web-interface. But, the web-interface doesn't fit large discussions in my book. Threading in my e-mail client (mutt on a terminal even) is clearer than that in Discourse, for example. In Discourse, threads are merely chronological and flat, and from what this post says, this is by design: https://meta.discourse.org/t/show-discussion-as-a-tree/103535/3 So, you cannot see the discussion as a clear tree on the web-interface. Even hyperkitty has some rudimentary support for this. If the idea is "let us use discourse but everyone use the e-mail feature", then it makes more sense to just stick to the well established mailing list via e-mail system for the moment. -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Time zone: Europe/London
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