Re: Fedora Workstation and disabled by default firewall

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On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 4:37:24 AM MST David Kaufmann wrote:
> Both option have their disadvantages - in the case of "maintainer opens
> ports" the ports are open as soon as the package gets installed, and
> software not run/installed via package manager will give the impression
> of "just not working".

Why in the world would somebody from the security team recommend opening a 
port on the firewall as the software is installed, before it's even 
configured?

> Also a firewall is not that much protection as it looks like - imagine
> any port (above 1024) which was opened on the firewall (either by
> maintainer or user), but where no program is listening on. The
> additional barrier to run e.g. a c&c server on that machine would just
> be an additional portscan in before deploying the malware.

Just running a firewall reduces the attack vector needed to deploy potential 
malware to begin with.

> As the issue of "users piping stuff through wget/curl to sh/bash" also
> was mentioned:
> In such a case any firewall won't help, as outbound connection usually
> are not filtered - also those tend to run on port 80/443 anyways, which
> usually is open even in heavily filtered networks.

Feel free to read that as "users shooting themselves in the foot", it was one 
example of running a potentially malicious program by accident that I figured 
everyone here would understand.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Splentity
https://splentity.com/

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