On Friday, August 23, 2019 4:46:53 AM MST Jan Pokorný wrote: > On 20/08/19 20:59 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > There is no good reason for the current behavior, in particular on a > > laptop. And it's fail danger, not fail safe. The very simple work > > around for the computer shutting off in 3 minutes of inactivity and > > you don't like that? Power it back on and enter your passphrase. > > Shockingly easy and obvious. Unless of course you're stuck somewhere > > and in fact want to use your laptop as a heating pad. > > Just that the particular corner case is not perceived in isolation, > there are other early-boot-stuck situations that would make sense > to deal with in the same fashion even if the sources are completely > different (predictability is more important from user's POV, IMHO). > > One such other situation is having the bootloader (grub2) failed and > hence be stuck in 'press a key to continue' or just staying in the > selection menu without any timeout ticking for whatever reason. > That's directly comparable to the LUKS prompt without any attention > for a prolonged time. > > With grub2, situation is actually worse, since without having any > means to control CPU throttling (which is already present by the > time one is to enter LUKS password), laptop will indeed become > said "heating pad" after a bit (one could for instance enter the > grub prompt if it's deemed a feature for some). To clarify on this a bit, GRUB will only stat "in the selection menu without any timeout for whatever reason" if it is either not configured to automatically select an entry after a timeout, or a key is pressed before the timeout, meaning GRUB expects you to choose a different boot option. As for "stuck in 'press a key to continue'", if it didn't do this, you would have no way of knowing what the error is to recover your system. -- John M. Harris, Jr. <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Splentity https://splentity.com/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
