On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:37 PM John Harris <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 7:35:05 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:35 PM John Harris <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can all agree that shutting the system down is not the > > > appropriate > behavior, right? > > > > > > I do not agree at all, even a little bit. > > > > -- > > Chris Murphy > > Okay, why? I've already explained why upthread. I put it in the category of 'unintentionally absurd behaviors' and this being planet Earth, it's a very long list. There is no good reason for the current behavior, in particular on a laptop. And it's fail danger, not fail safe. The very simple work around for the computer shutting off in 3 minutes of inactivity and you don't like that? Power it back on and enter your passphrase. Shockingly easy and obvious. Unless of course you're stuck somewhere and in fact want to use your laptop as a heating pad. And just to be extra clear, I am referring primarily to laptops. But the current behavior is specious, as default, even for a desktop. For servers, sure you may very well have a use case for a reboot, and it might take an hour for someone to get there with a keyboard, although that too is a little bit specious. I'd expect the more difficult a server is to access, the more effort would be put into having it equipped with a TPM or a hardware key for this purpose. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx