Firstly they're just FTBFS in F-30.... This isn't exactly long standing, if it was F-26 like some that were retired I could completely understand that statement but F-30 is pushing the rhetoric a bit here. > efivar and mokutil fail to build from source. They have been retired, then > unretired and they still fail to build from source. What do you mean by retired and unretired and still FTB? > Following the policy: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/ > > I kindly ask the maintainers to rebuild them or orphan them if they cannot take > care of them. Maybe you're not aware of this thing called RHEL-8, maybe the maintainer has been snowed under and as they stand they work as intended and it's not exactly a complete drama if they're not fixed right away. Or maybe he's drowning in email from the 8+ pointless repetitive bug updates that have been added to the bugs. I happen to know he's working on updates to them, but he also has other priorities. There really has to be a better way to deal with this, I spoke with many people, that are drowning in pointless email, like weekly SPAM reminders are really too much. One group I had a discussion with are well aware of the problems of their FTB packages but have other priorities and fix them when they get moments between the tidal waves. For example the OLPC/sugar stuff I do I'm slowly, as I and they get time, training others up on the packaging/Spin side of things, upstream is moving towards python3 and everyone is aware of this and the issues involved, but while we do this we now have hours of extra work to do because a whole bunch of the packages have been ripped out from under us in the process without proper notification if you happen to miss an email to devel, or in some of the people I'm working with aren't even on devel. PLEASE make it stop.... I'm actually considering stopping most of my work in Fedora because it makes me way too anxious to continue and that coming from me is something, I'd really hate to think how many silent contributors we're losing from this. Peter > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674840 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675403 > > Thanks, > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
