Re: Why retire Python 2 packages and games that still work to end user ?

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On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 7:47 PM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > Why we would retire childsplay or gcompris or gdesklets ? IMHO we still
> > haven't a replacement .
> >
> > From  [1] I strongly disagree with the text,  why all python 2 packages
> > will be removed automatically and why I would have a lot of work if I
> > want keep one package alive . why not the opposite ? .
> > Python 3 it isn't even the default why such hurry to drop python 2 at
> > all , when we still have epel 7 with python 2 ...
> >
> > My opinion at least postpone this decision one or two releases to
> > Fedors 33/34 , many things still just work with python 2 .
>
> I second that wholeheartedly.
>
> This change is just not implementable as it stands. Way too much upstream
> software still depends on Python 2. (In fact, I am not even convinced that
> it can be implemented as stated, ever, without dropping huge parts of Fedora
> and making it useless for a wide number of users. But what is sure is that
> it definitely cannot implemented without huge fallout in time for Fedora
> 32.)

Maintaining python 2 requires maintaining a *lot* of infrastructure.

> I also completely fail to see what value the rename from python2 to python27
> (yet another one, after the already pointless rename from python to python2)
> will bring to our users. But the worst part is the required FESCo exception
> approval for every single remaining Python 2 package, along with loads of
> bureaucracy that many packages will be unable to comply with (starting from
> the plan to move to Python 3, which depends on upstream, if there is even a
> live upstream to begin with).

To support multiple pythons, python26, python28 if it ever happens,
python36 python38 when it comes out.

Simply replacing the "python2" line iwth "python27" is not a difficent
edit in most source code.

>
> This is absolutely not a reasonable and social way to deal with
> compatibility packages in Fedora.
>
>         Kevin Kofler
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