On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 14:09 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 19:57:53 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak > <kyrre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Maybe not more than five or so. But *some*. > > Does upstream oo.org builds include any templates? How about you work > upstream and get 5 GOOD templates for oo.org into the upstream > defaults for oo.org that would be available in all oo.org builds for > all of oo.org's supported operating systems. I'm sory, but what a bollocks of an argument. By this same reasoning, Redhat and Fedora would never have fooled with the menu layout for Gnome because what's good enough from upstream is good enough for RH/Fedora There are plenty of packages that RH/Fedora change to meet the specific needs of their distro. Another example is the exclusion of gnome-desktop-backgrounds which seems to be very much like you suggest that Fedora should be doing with backgrounds. Gnome-desktop-backgrounds is officially part of gnome-2.10 so why isn't Fedora shipping it. It's good enough for upstream. So lets not argue that because OOo doesn't ship templates, Fedora shouldn't because history speaks otherwise. If you don't want templates included then just say it. Sorry if this seems a little rude. ;-] Rodd