Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Simply reclaim disk space in Anaconda

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On Wed, 2019-07-24 at 14:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2019-07-24 at 15:29 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
> > Kamil Paral píše v St 24. 07. 2019 v 13:37 +0200:
> > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:44 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Anaconda_Reclaim_Disk_Space
> > > > 
> > > > The Manual Partitioning screen supports all actions of the Resize
> > > > Disk
> > > > Space dialog, so it doesn't make sense to have two user interfaces
> > > > with the same functionality.
> > > 
> > > The manual partitioning screen is also much more complex and
> > > therefore more difficult to use. For the common use case of
> > > installing Fedora alongside Windows (where you need to shrink the
> > > Windows partition), the simple dialog is/was great. Linux novice
> > > users might not be able to accomplish that in the manual partitioning
> > > screen.
> > > 
> > > Just my personal opinion, I'm not trying to convince you to revert
> > > your plan.
> > 
> > I second Kamil here. I've introduced hundreds of people to Fedora and
> > "I've got Windows on the disk and need to reclaim space" is by far the
> > most common scenario among Fedora novices and instead of giving them a
> > simple dialog we're sending them to the manual setup which I as a Linux
> > user for 15 years have problems to get oriented in.
> > Is it really such engineering overhead to keep that dialog there?
> 
> Yeah...this is specifically why this screen exists: to not be as scary
> as the full-on custom partitioning screen. Or, you know...either of the
> *two* full-on custom partitioning flows we have now.

BTW, as a general note, it seems there's a trend building up where
quite significant changes to anaconda's design are being made
apparently without the design team's involvement. The 'newUI' design
was worked on *extensively* by the design team, particularly Mo Duffy,
and the whole UI design is a piece. I'm a bit worried that all these
changes are compromising the overall 'vision' for how the installer is
supposed to work.

I think perhaps we should consider running noticeable changes to the
anaconda design by the design team for their review and input...
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
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